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you're listening to Ira the inception

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you're listening to irn 2014 orders of

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international UFO conference our next

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speaker said at the right hand of Star

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Trek creator Gene Roddenberry having

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worked as a scriptwriter for our Trek

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The Next Generation David Bennett Karen

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went on to script rights from many

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famous science fiction and suspense

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television shows including the twilight

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zone Stargate sg-1 book Rogers in the

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25th century tech war beyond reality and

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more his science fiction novel no power

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on earth deals with an insidious alien

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invasion of Earth over the years david

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has directed written or produced more

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than 200 films and television shows and

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has won numerous awards he is currently

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an associate professor at the university

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of texas-pan american in edinburg texas

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where he teaches screenwriting film

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directing film history and video editing

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ladies and gentlemen please welcome

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okay first off who here is interested in

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any aspect of creative writing directing

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producing anything like that okay all

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right I I've never encountered an alien

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well Gerry Anderson I worked with in

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England might be called an alien I guess

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especially peepers itat the states and

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I'm not part of the UF thing Oh thing at

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all but like so many young kids one of

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the first films I saw was the man from

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at Planet X when I was a kid anyone

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remember the man from Planet X arch Oh

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blur wonderful little movie all but

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forgotten and like every other kid who

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watched that movie it was very

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interesting approach to what an alien is

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and in other words he was very different

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but at the same time he was very human

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had very human issues or identifiable

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issues he couldn't speak which made him

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more interesting and just a very rich

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idea and of course like any little kid I

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wanted very much to meet him even though

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he did try destroy the earth I

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understood why because the people in

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Scotland treated him badly where the

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filmer said in any case it's one of the

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many things that pulled me into writing

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science fiction where the ideas of

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things beings worlds dimensions beings

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whatever you want to call it beyond what

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we had and I'm sure everyone can

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identify I grew up with in dallas in the

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50s and trust me

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dallas in the 50s was as boring as any

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place you can imagine and this kind of

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material outer limits when I was a kid

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Twilight Zone Forbidden Planet all that

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material was a lifesaver for me and I

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like writing that kind material and very

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much enjoy rying science fiction and

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luckily when I went out to Los Angeles

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to be a TV writer there was just

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starting then and interest in writings

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in producing science fiction TV again

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there was a long wall after Star Trek

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the original series where science

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fiction television was dead there is

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science fiction television and movies

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was was dead between the early 60s and

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the 70s there was 10 15 years 20 years

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there when no one wanted to touch it

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then Star Wars change things and people

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started to notice that wow really good

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science fiction will sell tickets and

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then next generation came back and

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people noticed Wow science fiction

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television can really work and now it's

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all over the tube ok I still call it the

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tube I guess the plasma screen now a

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walking dead lost was very science

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fictional z nation bal star Galactica

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which I actually worked on the 80s

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version i have to admit the new version

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was a big improvement and it's evolved i

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mean i'll use that word science fiction

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television has evolved fancy television

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whatever you want to call it but there

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are certain things that remain the same

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and i'm going to get into that right now

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i think i'll start out well first the

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first show that comes up is space

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I'm going to I'll get to that in a

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now now the thing I'm proudest about

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with Star Trek it is one of the writers

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guild came up with a very carefully

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worked out evaluation of the 101

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best-written television series and the

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show I worked on they sent me the

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certificate Star Trek's one of the best

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hundred and one television series ever

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produced in the history of TV I'm very

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proud of that I agree with it

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wholeheartedly if you know anything

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about the history of course how many

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people I know a lot of people here

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another history of the original show

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right Gene Roddenberry and all that next

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generation Gene Roddenberry was running

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the show at the beginning of the process

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of the first two first season really and

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then the second season and honestly he

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in some ways wasn't quite up to it he

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was doing more a plot directed concept

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directed show then a new executive

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producer they went through several

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executive producers and supervising

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producers or producers and the winning

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team the team that made the show really

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work was Rick Berman and Michael piller

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and between the two of them they realize

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the thing that will make this show work

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is character directed material not plot

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directed material and all the point I'm

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trying to make here is the best science

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fiction is character directed it's not

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plot directed the thing that's difficult

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is you need a science fiction concept in

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there to make it interesting and true

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science fiction but how do you do that

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without it overwhelming or destroying or

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negating the value of character and of

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course the best material takes

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characters or people that we can relate

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to even if they're aliens and puts them

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in a situation that science fictional

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and then through that experience a

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comment is made on the human condition

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today and you get you can get into

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things like slavery and racial

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discrimination and environmental

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disaster my opinion of the zombie

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it's a series is there's an appeal on

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several levels some of them very

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unhealthy on one level it's about how we

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all feel that it very much in modern

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feeling today modern feeling for many

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human beings today is that at some point

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civilization will collapse and will be

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reduced to eating each other fighting

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each other off or keep each other from

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eating each other that's one fear

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another is the real human desire to be a

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hero we all have that desire on some

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level or another and we all want to be a

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hero and then there's another level it

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works where there are people amongst us

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which hope civilization would collapse

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they could pull out their guns and shoot

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people and be in control so it serves a

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lot of different things because of

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course the basic concept of zombies as I

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hate to mention this is utterly and

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completely impossible there's no way

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someone can die and come back and have

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enough brain capacity I should walk

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around and why would they want to bite

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people it's ridiculous it's utterly

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absurd on every science level you can

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imagine an alien would invent such an

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absurd thing but it works dramatically

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okay so to get the star trek again the

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basic science of Star Trek which was

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very carefully worked out John Rick Gene

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Roddenberry and the late jean and

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anyone remember Jean Kuhn he was the

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unsung genius of the original show he uh

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and Ron buried together worked out the

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science the tella teleporter the

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communicators which we all have now in

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our pockets ironically we all flip out

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the same thing they used to flip out and

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the mode of energy that would drive them

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through space which is the annihilation

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of antimatter and matter in a

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containment vessel of some kind which of

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course is theoretically possible and is

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further it's maybe a hundred 200 years

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away but it's actually theoretically

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possible but the bottom line is what are

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the character stories now to quote Woody

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Allen he was asked about what's up Tiger

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where he got the idea to do what he was

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doing with that movie and they said was

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this an homage to Mack Sennett or

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whatever and he said no it's not no Maj

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we stole it well every story you see in

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science fiction of course everyone

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should know if you don't that all the

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zombie stories you ever seen are all

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taken from one book i am legend by

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richard matheson it's all from that

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that's ground zero for this material and

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does that mean george from our did

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something wrong hehe opening a knowledge

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that he took was inspired for a night

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living dead by i am legend it's not the

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same story at all it's completely

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different we were inspired by a James

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Garner movie 36 hours and if you watched

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Mission Impossible in the 70s every

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other episode of Mission Possible in the

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70s was 36 hours which is James Griner's

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and OSS agent he's kidnapped by right

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before d-day by the Germans taken to a

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hospital in Bavaria they dress it up as

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an American Hospital they put all the

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German soldiers in American uniforms are

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all speaking unaccented English and they

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tried to convince him that its 1946 he's

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woken up out of a coma and he's going to

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be fine and by the way what was it like

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right before d-day why don't you tell us

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what that was all like what were the

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details and the story went from there in

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other words a a force moves a character

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in your story in time and/or place into

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another time or place to achieve a goal

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ok so we had this idea that a Riker goes

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on a weighty mission gets gassed in a

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cave wakes up and it's 16 years later

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and he's captain the enterprise and he

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has a son and a dead wife that he

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doesn't remember and the turn in the

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story is that

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it's supposedly the Romulans who have

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done this to him to learn about outpost

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remember that there were outposts in one

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episode of the original series where

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they're chasing a Romulan bird-of-prey

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and their fight they're fighting over

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outposts and that's what inspired us one

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of the Romulans on that ship is called

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Decius when we named a Romulan ship in

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this Decius you know I was a fan of the

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show the original show so we're trying

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to honor the history but he gets gassed

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he finds out that he's on he finds out

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at one point in the story the whole

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thing is a plot by the Romulans get

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information out but I want to show you

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the genesis of a scene because

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everything you watch that you love in a

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story is based on the basic dramatic

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component of the scene the story comes

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out it's like the molecule it's like the

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autumn of a story is the same if the

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scenes work it progresses your story

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forward introduces your characters

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entertains you and gives you important

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emotional and dramatic information all

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at the same time when you're watching a

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low-budget movie and there you're bored

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or angry or distracted the scenes aren't

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working that's why the story isn't

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working and I'll show you a very

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important scene in his story he has he's

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trying to reclaim himself the son that

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he doesn't remember because of course

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the Sun doesn't exist right so let's

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you all right ok this is the european

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version of the scene they were offended

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by it and blacked it out you know

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you already you have image but no sound

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okay now I'll tell you the double turn

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in a story that makes it a story the

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plot would be the Romulans are trying to

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get information out of them the story

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and the reason we're very proud of this

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is that little boy who is his son in the

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story is really an alien who simply

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wants a father who's created this whole

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fancy to keep him distracted so he can

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be as that and who here doesn't have

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father or mother issues right okay other

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things you should know about Trek how

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how many how many space battles do we

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have space battles do we have very few

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how many plants did we go to you hardly

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ever saw the planets the really we only

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had three swing sets what happened it's

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broken but it's going to be all right

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and just and you people they're deaf and

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you're easy on this arm for the world

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dad you all right oh please okay what

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happened it's broken but it's going to

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be alright in just a minute

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now let's go easy on this arm for a

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little while okay

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how this happened

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I was in gym playing free she scores

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parisi squares I fell off the room at

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your age you could break your neck I'm

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sorry yet I didn't mean to continue the

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compression in 10 you eight ER for

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another two minutes Yes Doctor can I

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I'll be right back we'll how old were

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you when you first started playing

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Parisi's squares all right guys probably

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a little younger than he is it's just

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that for all practical purposes it's my

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first day as a father he almost kills

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himself he didn't almost kill himself he

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just broke his wrist just like a lot of

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other boys his age when they fall right

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it's difficult difficult for you what

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about for Jean Luc can you imagine how

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you've lost 16 years jean-luc has lost a

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lot more than that first his mother and

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good as new captain you can take him

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home thanks how's the arm it's fine dad

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I'm really sorry I mean I know you're

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more important things to do there is

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decade why not how hard this is for you

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it's okay did no okay it's not good

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enough When I was your age my own father

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wasn't there for me and I really needed

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often wondered what kind of father I'd

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never felt quite ready the idea even

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scared me a little scared cute yeah but

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it's important to me but I don't let you

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down you never have dad you've always

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been there for me I'll have to take your

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word for that because I don't remember

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any of it your first step your first

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and I want to remember

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I guess there's only one thing we can do

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I'm not sure it's still in the memory

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banks but I used to have a great fishing

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program on the holodeck the Curtis Creek

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program you know it sure we've gone to

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Curtis Creek lots of times you like to

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go again you bet well as soon as these

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negotiations are out of the way you and

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dad you all right I'm fine what it's

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broken who's in the gym playing pretty

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squirts serisi squares I fell off the

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dad you already you'll notice the

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wonderful little details the ambient

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sound in the background that'll hum the

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the the swish of the door is all these

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little elements always add up they were

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very good about all this stuff I mean

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we've had the production means they will

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worry about every device every article

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of clothing they were very very careful

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about all that stuff but the very next

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scene I don't I guess we lost it but the

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very next scene where he learns he

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figures out that this is not as kid

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that's Romulan plot and it's exposed to

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Ronnie and plot is classic storytelling

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in a sense that you have every seen in a

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story has to have a good a negative or

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positive value and the best stories you

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have a negative value seen and then you

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have a positive value seen you have some

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good news how many times you see a story

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with oh wow we're winning we're winning

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look at the great stuff that's happened

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and then something bad happens about a

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reversal an obstacle that's what good

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storytelling is and that's what happened

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here is this scene he gets close to that

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little boy and then finds out the whole

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thing as a fabrication now the point

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about that scene another point I want to

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make about that scene was it was an

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add-on at the last minute we were in

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production was the last day next to last

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day production and this show was short

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by several minutes and we needed a scene

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to move the story forward but at the

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same time that scene couldn't just be

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filler it couldn't have new characters

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and new special effects or new props

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from new costumes in it we had no money

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for that we it had to be a scene that we

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could shoot quickly so we went to the

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turbolift and we had that moment there

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between the two of them and we wrote it

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very quickly the executive producer My

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partner and I at that time and executive

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producer had kids I didn't and said well

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gosh she grow up 16 years you've never

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seen your kid loses first tooth or take

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his first walk so that was part of the

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scene my dad had just died like

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before we shot this and I said to him

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just before he dies the dad you never

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let me down that's that's in there that

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feeling my part is nuts about fish you

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all right it's all he cares about is

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fine so he threw the Kirk this Creek

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thing in there which is a if any of your

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fisherman knows no that's a shangri-la

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for a fishing place that doesn't exist

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it's it's a non-existent wonderful place

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to fish it's the perfect place to fish

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so he's talking about they're talking

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about Kurdish Creek okay and therefore

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that scene is very honest and very

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emotional that's why it works it wasn't

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even supposed to be in a story so to me

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this is the most important see in the

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show and was an accident it would have

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happened if we hadn't been short

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currency like this like we call it money

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dramatic money in a good story is

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communication through what what would

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communication a good story be through

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anyone want to guess huh and it's okay

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it's through emotion did you say that

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good for you oh there you know all about

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Aristotle I I'm sorry I'm old-fashioned

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I've never gotten past our esata line oh

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there are a lot of people especially on

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the East Coast they're doing plays we

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think you don't need a hero you don't

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need a antagonist or protagonist or

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conflict or plot points you just had

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people talk about their lives and

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express themselves it's the most boring

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thing short of standing in line for the

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post office is to watch a play where

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people are sitting in a bar talking

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about their lives that's not drama I

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don't know what it is but it's not drama

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and this is drama you have to have

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conflict you have to have progression

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and it has to be based on something

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human okay Walking Dead is very

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successful series because it's about

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human these are very well realized

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characters experienced experiencing

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totally impossible and utterly

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ridiculous situation that we never see

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it that way okay now I want to I don't

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know if we have the

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do we have the video for space precinct

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we probably don't but let's try now I

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always show space precinct I will show

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it to you quickly the fun about space

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anyone remembers space precinct ok do we

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go out at all it is Gerry Anderson was

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this producer he was the Gene

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Roddenberry of England and he did puppet

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shows and then he wanted to do live

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action and he wanted to Hill Street

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Blues in space which was a very good

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idea for a serious by the way he'll do

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it you know cops in space and do but he

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very quickly figured out that producing

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all those interesting characters and

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interesting multiple storylines was

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beyond his purview so then he decided to

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Kojak in space which was not a good idea

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in old-fashioned even when they were

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doing the show and he had certain points

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of view about production anyway we're in

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London and we're having lunch with Jerry

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in a nice restaurant because they were

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shooting this in in London and I told

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him a true story about being attacked I

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was walking my lab in Venice where I

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lived and we were attacked by a pitbull

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and it's very scary the pitbull bit my

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leg left my dog alone it was among the

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most terrifying experiences of my life I

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know it's like to be attacked by a

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man-eating dog and the dog was destroyed

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I had to get a tetanus shot oh and he

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said this is perfect we can use this as

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an episode of space precinct the planets

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are going to be invaded by these

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creatures they're giving puppies and

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these dogs to all the important people

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on the planet all the government

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officials in a plan then they'll send

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out a signal and the dogs will kill

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their masters adding That's not me I

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haven't eaten lately and kills it will

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kill all their masters and the plant

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will be control fall into chaos and then

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they can invade I said that's a good

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idea ok and we know the Jen garner movie

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they only kill their masters hey it

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did one great James Garner movie for his

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show let's do another one okay and then

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he said let's make the dogs labs how

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many of you here have ever had a lab

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okay how scary and ferocious our labs

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dachshunds bite their masters more than

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labs two dachshunds are more dangerous

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to their owners than labs so we asked

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them how are you going to make and we

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knew the England they didn't have an

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infrastructure like they do in LA I mean

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I did an episode diagnosis murder and we

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had to interview six dogs I kid you not

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to do too simple gags their trainers

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came in six dogs we ended up hiring two

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dogs do three gags and this is an LA

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where they had an infrastructure of this

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guy thing so we're going to get killer

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labs in England said oh no we'll do it

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amia tronic Lee this is what happened

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you do what I say I won't touch you have

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a Pete I am NOT a mud yeah any reason

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why I should believe in like their

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mother their head there I didn't guys a

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Mack Sennett some role with this is to

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put chip the Super Bowl that's not a CGI

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that's not rear screen projection ed

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edge of the green screen on the edge

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over there was on the opportunity that's

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just observing murder he's a plastic of

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the city's intercepted a coded

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communicate sent from my planet to alpha

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styles and Ingram will involve with ill

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you lost the O'Mara or a nomadic race

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and beyond the rim it will recognize can

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kill shadow / killers they've looted

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dozens of planets including my own and

541
00:28:08,570 --> 00:28:06,029
Alto is there next time

542
00:28:11,810 --> 00:28:08,580
what are you telling outdoors about to

543
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:11,820
be invaded eventually it may not seem

544
00:28:16,909 --> 00:28:14,369
like it now but my planet was taken by

545
00:28:20,539 --> 00:28:16,919
surprise it was all over before we knew

546
00:28:24,169 --> 00:28:20,549
it had begun well why come to me when I

547
00:28:26,899 --> 00:28:24,179
go to the military the risks are too

548
00:28:29,419 --> 00:28:26,909
great the Amerinds will have spies

549
00:28:31,279 --> 00:28:29,429
everywhere if you would work for them

550
00:28:34,039 --> 00:28:31,289
you could blow me out of the sky when

551
00:28:35,229 --> 00:28:34,049
you first pursue me you know I gotta

552
00:28:38,060 --> 00:28:35,239
tell you this a little hard to believe

553
00:28:41,479 --> 00:28:38,070
you're saying that styles and hing groom

554
00:28:45,019 --> 00:28:41,489
were killed by this O'Mara that is the

555
00:28:47,599 --> 00:28:45,029
way the Oh Myron's work they use be

556
00:28:50,209 --> 00:28:47,609
often without their knowledge until life

557
00:28:52,590 --> 00:28:50,219
serve their purpose and then they

558
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:52,600
dispose of them

559
00:29:00,030 --> 00:28:54,490
what's in it for you why are you doing

560
00:29:01,650 --> 00:29:00,040
it vanish I suppose because I cannot let

561
00:29:03,700 --> 00:29:01,660
them destroy another people like they

562
00:29:18,499 --> 00:29:03,710
did mine

563
00:29:24,069 --> 00:29:21,949
so what are we doing here no matter

564
00:29:28,959 --> 00:29:24,079
communicate mentioned one other name

565
00:29:36,020 --> 00:29:28,969
corporal this is why he lives and maybe

566
00:29:36,030 --> 00:29:42,799
let the guy sense him

567
00:29:42,809 --> 00:29:48,690
very good and far more by saying no

568
00:29:56,070 --> 00:29:52,560
I've lost everything return family home

569
00:29:58,170 --> 00:29:56,080
friends or gone the only thing I have to

570
00:30:02,750 --> 00:29:58,180
live for is the destruction of the young

571
00:30:29,010 --> 00:30:02,760
mare now you can either assist me or

572
00:30:29,020 --> 00:30:50,350
huh

573
00:30:50,360 --> 00:31:01,090
Oh

574
00:31:01,100 --> 00:31:11,779
one end

575
00:31:20,519 --> 00:31:15,299
piece of the model at that point fly out

576
00:31:28,139 --> 00:31:20,529
there this show what do you think that

577
00:31:34,940 --> 00:31:28,149
was shot 60s 70s sensible and sensible

578
00:31:37,649 --> 00:31:34,950
anyone else i usually get 83 or 84

579
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:37,659
that's why usually goes 83 84 you know

580
00:31:47,759 --> 00:31:40,210
like powers of matthew star kind of that

581
00:31:50,399 --> 00:31:47,769
time this show was shot almost well at

582
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:50,409
least four years after the star trek it

583
00:31:56,729 --> 00:31:52,570
was shot in 94 the star trek was shot in

584
00:32:00,479 --> 00:31:56,739
90 and it was shot for an about the same

585
00:32:03,089 --> 00:32:00,489
amount of money not far removed the star

586
00:32:06,239 --> 00:32:03,099
trek was shot for 1.8 million this was I

587
00:32:07,649 --> 00:32:06,249
think 1.4 and in England 1.4 million

588
00:32:11,159 --> 00:32:07,659
dollars goes a lot farther there than it

589
00:32:14,839 --> 00:32:11,169
does here so it was comparable and you

590
00:32:17,789 --> 00:32:14,849
see models you got models on strings

591
00:32:19,889 --> 00:32:17,799
right we had motion control back in the

592
00:32:22,769 --> 00:32:19,899
original show in the 60s and they've got

593
00:32:26,190 --> 00:32:22,779
models on strings and tabletop models in

594
00:32:29,700 --> 00:32:26,200
the Isle of the Jim Carrey claw approach

595
00:32:31,889 --> 00:32:29,710
of the dog or are the first time I saw

596
00:32:33,869 --> 00:32:31,899
it I fell in this my for hurting my

597
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:33,879
stomach hurting why am i showing you

598
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:40,690
this I you often wonder you watch a

599
00:32:45,570 --> 00:32:43,210
movie let's say like what like Johnny

600
00:32:48,690 --> 00:32:45,580
Depp was wonderful and pirates the

601
00:32:50,879 --> 00:32:48,700
caribbean and any of you that Shah saw

602
00:32:53,969 --> 00:32:50,889
the Lone Ranger filmin thought what

603
00:32:56,430 --> 00:32:53,979
happened why did he do this right and

604
00:32:58,889 --> 00:32:56,440
you just get any situations where

605
00:33:01,529 --> 00:32:58,899
certain decisions get made let's do an

606
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:01,539
action Western comedy like Lone Ranger

607
00:33:07,310 --> 00:33:04,330
and let's have two Indian massacres in

608
00:33:09,810 --> 00:33:07,320
it that will be entertaining what a

609
00:33:11,669 --> 00:33:09,820
agonizingly stupid idea but it just

610
00:33:12,930 --> 00:33:11,679
happens that you start getting into

611
00:33:14,759 --> 00:33:12,940
these rooms it's kind of like the Iraq

612
00:33:17,399 --> 00:33:14,769
war will do this will do that and I'll

613
00:33:18,629 --> 00:33:17,409
work on fine it's the same thing it's

614
00:33:22,019 --> 00:33:18,639
the same thing with these TV shows

615
00:33:24,869 --> 00:33:22,029
movies so many elements can go wrong

616
00:33:27,060 --> 00:33:24,879
one performance one story idea one bad

617
00:33:28,289 --> 00:33:27,070
production choice and one thing leads to

618
00:33:31,889 --> 00:33:28,299
another and just turns into something

619
00:33:34,529 --> 00:33:31,899
ludicrous and that's the creative just

620
00:33:37,769 --> 00:33:34,539
so you know it's a lot harder to do than

621
00:33:41,159 --> 00:33:37,779
it looks to write something good and

622
00:33:44,099 --> 00:33:41,169
it's even harder to do than it looks to

623
00:33:47,009 --> 00:33:44,109
produce it properly so that what's on

624
00:33:49,649 --> 00:33:47,019
paper will actually play well the same

625
00:33:52,229 --> 00:33:49,659
writers wrote this stuff that wrote the

626
00:33:54,349 --> 00:33:52,239
Star Trek and it was like night and day

627
00:33:57,209 --> 00:33:54,359
you would swear we weren't involved

628
00:34:00,389 --> 00:33:57,219
let's move on okay now Gene Roddenberry

629
00:34:03,509 --> 00:34:00,399
here the reasons these pictures exist

630
00:34:05,549 --> 00:34:03,519
and I had them on my office wall is that

631
00:34:08,490 --> 00:34:05,559
Ron Berry is a very sweet he was very

632
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:08,500
sweet to us guys okay he had very little

633
00:34:12,419 --> 00:34:10,450
involved with next generation he was

634
00:34:14,970 --> 00:34:12,429
show up like one day a week to his

635
00:34:20,220 --> 00:34:14,980
office his assistant would drive him in

636
00:34:22,409 --> 00:34:20,230
his yellow Bentley to his office and we

637
00:34:24,389 --> 00:34:22,419
all some of us I was a fan for man

638
00:34:27,450 --> 00:34:24,399
trapped man trap was the first episode

639
00:34:30,359 --> 00:34:27,460
of the original Star Trek I saw as the

640
00:34:31,919 --> 00:34:30,369
teenager and I was hooked in fact so

641
00:34:33,690 --> 00:34:31,929
hook that eventually my mentor in Los

642
00:34:35,789 --> 00:34:33,700
Angeles was George Clinton Johnson who

643
00:34:38,549 --> 00:34:35,799
wrote that episode a very good mentor

644
00:34:40,470 --> 00:34:38,559
and all of us fans the true Trekkies

645
00:34:42,210 --> 00:34:40,480
they invited us to the set to take

646
00:34:44,460 --> 00:34:42,220
publicity pictures of us and he showed

647
00:34:47,369 --> 00:34:44,470
up and he signed our pictures I mean

648
00:34:49,169 --> 00:34:47,379
that's the kind of guy he was so I'm

649
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:49,179
proud of it I'm not proud of the fact

650
00:34:55,529 --> 00:34:51,010
I'm don't look anything like that

651
00:34:57,779 --> 00:34:55,539
anymore I live in a valley just too many

652
00:34:59,460 --> 00:34:57,789
you know the valley mcallen I just too

653
00:35:01,440 --> 00:34:59,470
many burritos guys too many breakfast

654
00:35:04,260 --> 00:35:01,450
tacos that's the worst thing about

655
00:35:07,289 --> 00:35:04,270
living in the valley he visit us at the

656
00:35:09,450 --> 00:35:07,299
next of our episode so you actually

657
00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:09,460
create a famous

658
00:35:13,890 --> 00:35:12,250
and Stargate we must first have the code

659
00:35:17,750 --> 00:35:13,900
of life from the juices of the species

660
00:35:20,130 --> 00:35:17,760
intended as the host let's move on

661
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:20,140
Stargate the interesting thing about

662
00:35:25,230 --> 00:35:22,810
Star Gate was they shot at in Vancouver

663
00:35:26,700 --> 00:35:25,240
and you notice that almost all the

664
00:35:31,010 --> 00:35:26,710
world's they want to happen to be in a

665
00:35:33,839 --> 00:35:31,020
forest or in a desert there's an old

666
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:33,849
strip mine that was the desert and

667
00:35:39,089 --> 00:35:35,650
there's a force because they have a park

668
00:35:41,190 --> 00:35:39,099
there if it had the biggest junkyard in

669
00:35:44,460 --> 00:35:41,200
the world every plant would have had a

670
00:35:47,430 --> 00:35:44,470
junkyard okay because there's no cities

671
00:35:50,700 --> 00:35:47,440
the city in Vancouver is particularly

672
00:35:53,370 --> 00:35:50,710
unfilmable outside of like x-files they

673
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:53,380
had those those streets the little

674
00:35:58,079 --> 00:35:55,450
residential streets the city itself is

675
00:36:00,329 --> 00:35:58,089
amazingly unfilmable it's all brand new

676
00:36:01,980 --> 00:36:00,339
and it doesn't look right from any angle

677
00:36:04,109 --> 00:36:01,990
so really you can shoot in the forest

678
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:04,119
you can shoot whatever so every episode

679
00:36:07,859 --> 00:36:05,770
was like that but we created Hawthorne

680
00:36:12,420 --> 00:36:07,869
if you follow the show my partner on

681
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:12,430
create a hawthorn okay anyway any

682
00:36:18,599 --> 00:36:16,690
questions about Buck Rogers any interest

683
00:36:20,370 --> 00:36:18,609
in that this is a remake by the way you

684
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:20,380
know there was a Buck Rogers in the 50s

685
00:36:27,329 --> 00:36:24,490
a very it was a what you call it a live

686
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:27,339
Golden Age TV show was shot in New York

687
00:36:32,270 --> 00:36:28,690
I think it was for the DuPont network

688
00:36:34,770 --> 00:36:32,280
and there's no night doesn't exist it's

689
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:34,780
no copies of it exists they didn't have

690
00:36:42,450 --> 00:36:37,890
kinescope sivan for that show this show

691
00:36:45,270 --> 00:36:42,460
still exists it this is not a this is

692
00:36:48,180 --> 00:36:45,280
not a filthy title of any kind what that

693
00:36:52,140 --> 00:36:48,190
anyone remember the fighting 69th the

694
00:36:55,050 --> 00:36:52,150
gyms James Cagney movie the fighting

695
00:36:57,450 --> 00:36:55,060
69th it was about a battle unit in World

696
00:36:59,609 --> 00:36:57,460
War it was a famous regiment in world

697
00:37:03,540 --> 00:36:59,619
war one and basically this was the

698
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:03,550
over-the-hill gang in space it basically

699
00:37:06,570 --> 00:37:04,930
a bunch of old pilots are the only

700
00:37:09,060 --> 00:37:06,580
politic and go on particular mission and

701
00:37:13,170 --> 00:37:09,070
we hired Peter Graves and woody strode

702
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:13,180
and I got to sit on this set with woody

703
00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:14,890
strode and we've got to talk about John

704
00:37:20,130 --> 00:37:18,730
Ford the point I'm making here is for me

705
00:37:22,620 --> 00:37:20,140
one of the joys of being the film

706
00:37:25,180 --> 00:37:22,630
business was the oral history

707
00:37:27,670 --> 00:37:25,190
when you get to send a set and you get

708
00:37:29,250 --> 00:37:27,680
to talk to people like woody strode what

709
00:37:31,690 --> 00:37:29,260
was it like to shoot sergeant rutledge

710
00:37:35,829 --> 00:37:31,700
what was it like to work with John Ford

711
00:37:38,290 --> 00:37:35,839
and it's amazing what you find what you

712
00:37:40,270 --> 00:37:38,300
learn the the things you pick up I later

713
00:37:42,780 --> 00:37:40,280
worked with woody strode son on

714
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:42,790
diagnosis murder to me that's a joy of

715
00:37:48,220 --> 00:37:46,490
being in the business is to because I'm

716
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:48,230
still a fan you know when I meet

717
00:37:52,630 --> 00:37:49,970
somebody in the business said oh did you

718
00:37:55,140 --> 00:37:52,640
work in solace with so and so I went to

719
00:37:58,660 --> 00:37:55,150
a film festival once in Beaumont Texas

720
00:38:00,520 --> 00:37:58,670
okay and the guy that showed up there

721
00:38:02,260 --> 00:38:00,530
were supposed to be three people on a

722
00:38:04,270 --> 00:38:02,270
producer panel two of them didn't show

723
00:38:06,250 --> 00:38:04,280
up so the producer was standing up there

724
00:38:08,349 --> 00:38:06,260
he had produced a film called scarecrow

725
00:38:11,490 --> 00:38:08,359
a TV movie with Charles Durning very

726
00:38:15,069 --> 00:38:11,500
scary scarecrow movie neither scarecrow

727
00:38:17,380 --> 00:38:15,079
he's standing up there alone says is any

728
00:38:18,819 --> 00:38:17,390
producers in the audience so I

729
00:38:20,140 --> 00:38:18,829
volunteered went up there and I was

730
00:38:22,750 --> 00:38:20,150
talking with him and we had both worked

731
00:38:24,460 --> 00:38:22,760
on twilight zone and we were just having

732
00:38:25,809 --> 00:38:24,470
a discussion talking about the people

733
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:25,819
who worked with probably audience like

734
00:38:33,910 --> 00:38:28,130
they weren't there Peter Graves was in

735
00:38:36,940 --> 00:38:33,920
it and Gil Gerard Aaron gray is back

736
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:36,950
again she's working in any of you watch

737
00:38:41,799 --> 00:38:39,650
the guild and tech what any of you watch

738
00:38:45,789 --> 00:38:41,809
tech war but I worked on a lot of

739
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:45,799
innocent trivia questions there was a

740
00:38:50,349 --> 00:38:47,930
show I did called beyond westworld it

741
00:38:53,460 --> 00:38:50,359
was a sequel to West world they ordered

742
00:38:56,230 --> 00:38:53,470
six they aired five they shot for

743
00:39:02,710 --> 00:38:56,240
another they they shot five they aired

744
00:39:06,010 --> 00:39:02,720
for that was a hit okay this is my most

745
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:06,020
personal project okay we have plenty of

746
00:39:10,990 --> 00:39:08,930
time right until one o'clock back up 15

747
00:39:13,420 --> 00:39:11,000
minutes okay this is my most personal

748
00:39:16,750 --> 00:39:13,430
project I want to talk about this in a

749
00:39:19,809 --> 00:39:16,760
sense of any kind of personal expression

750
00:39:21,460 --> 00:39:19,819
I was why I lived in Venice at the time

751
00:39:23,500 --> 00:39:21,470
Venice California would walk to the

752
00:39:25,150 --> 00:39:23,510
beach and back I was walking back from

753
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:25,160
the beach and I was past this little

754
00:39:29,230 --> 00:39:26,690
church and they had a rummage sale in

755
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:29,240
front of it and one of the items they

756
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:33,170
were selling was a little kids bed a

757
00:39:38,180 --> 00:39:34,810
little children's bed

758
00:39:41,340 --> 00:39:38,190
and I got the horrible epiphany or

759
00:39:43,140 --> 00:39:41,350
feeling that whatever child last slept

760
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:43,150
something that bad died in it not that

761
00:39:46,350 --> 00:39:44,890
almost certainly wasn't the case it was

762
00:39:49,020 --> 00:39:46,360
they just outgrew it and got rid of it

763
00:39:52,260 --> 00:39:49,030
but I by the time I got home I had a

764
00:39:55,860 --> 00:39:52,270
story and I wrote the story if she dies

765
00:39:59,760 --> 00:39:55,870
and about a haunted bed and was about

766
00:40:02,250 --> 00:39:59,770
this this man's kid his baby is Kurt in

767
00:40:05,430 --> 00:40:02,260
a car accident ends up in the hospital

768
00:40:07,650 --> 00:40:05,440
and she's dying and then he encounters

769
00:40:09,750 --> 00:40:07,660
this nun at a rummage sale at this

770
00:40:13,830 --> 00:40:09,760
orphanage is about to be torn down and

771
00:40:17,610 --> 00:40:13,840
buys a haunted bed haunted by the ghost

772
00:40:20,550 --> 00:40:17,620
of a dead child the same age as his baby

773
00:40:23,190 --> 00:40:20,560
his little girl and it was very

774
00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:23,200
interesting story and it let me see what

775
00:40:53,410 --> 00:40:52,270
go to the hospital scene she's hurt in a

776
00:40:54,910 --> 00:40:53,420
car accident and then he's in the

777
00:41:05,140 --> 00:40:54,920
hospital the doctors telling him the bad

778
00:41:11,530 --> 00:41:05,150
news he's not responding no just move

779
00:41:14,260 --> 00:41:11,540
Monica involuntary reflexes her vital

780
00:41:17,410 --> 00:41:14,270
signs are fading Paul we almost lost her

781
00:41:18,710 --> 00:41:17,420
last night but there's still hope isn't

782
00:41:26,829 --> 00:41:18,720
it

783
00:41:39,220 --> 00:41:29,710
you know

784
00:41:42,550 --> 00:41:39,230
please you can't give up my mother lost

785
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:42,560
a mother a year ago and I understand

786
00:42:02,970 --> 00:42:00,420
and she dies she dies well we'll do what

787
00:42:05,029 --> 00:42:02,980
we can I'll give you a prescription to

788
00:42:07,319 --> 00:42:05,039
help you sleep

789
00:42:10,470 --> 00:42:07,329
you have to promise me we'll be careful

790
00:42:15,630 --> 00:42:13,230
thinking she's trying to talk to me

791
00:42:23,430 --> 00:42:15,640
calling me you

792
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:23,440
maybe in her mind go home will call you

793
00:42:29,050 --> 00:43:10,800
Nick think home facilities like a resin

794
00:43:17,850 --> 00:43:13,680
yeah I help is a little girl roof a

795
00:43:21,090 --> 00:43:17,860
little girl on the roof surely you must

796
00:43:23,460 --> 00:43:21,100
be mistaken no I saw well there aren't

797
00:43:27,630 --> 00:43:23,470
any children here they left yesterday

798
00:43:30,150 --> 00:43:27,640
all of them the orphanage is closed this

799
00:43:32,340 --> 00:43:30,160
is an often but wow Santa media's

800
00:43:34,950 --> 00:43:32,350
orphanage god bless us they're tearing

801
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:34,960
it down next week and all the children

802
00:43:41,100 --> 00:43:36,970
are at the new building so you couldn't

803
00:43:45,940 --> 00:43:41,110
have seen anyone on the roof I searched

804
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:45,950
a moment ago I was afraid she might fall

805
00:43:54,279 --> 00:43:49,930
I saw her quite clearly I don't think so

806
00:43:56,259 --> 00:43:54,289
but feel free to look around

807
00:43:58,150 --> 00:43:56,269
we are mostly down the odds and ends

808
00:44:01,929 --> 00:43:58,160
from the basement but there might be

809
00:44:05,460 --> 00:44:01,939
something you could use and you'd be

810
00:44:05,470 --> 00:44:12,390
what everything you see here is the same

811
00:44:12,400 --> 00:45:14,750
no I'm not interested in buying anything

812
00:45:22,100 --> 00:45:17,780
it's a lovely old piece isn't do you

813
00:45:26,990 --> 00:45:22,110
have a child yes a daughter actually

814
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:27,000
like it I don't think so sister well

815
00:45:49,739 --> 00:45:46,289
how much little bit

816
00:45:55,830 --> 00:45:49,749
yes well I don't know really it's an NT

817
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,770
I'll get my car

818
00:46:10,130 --> 00:46:04,270
ok now we intrigued will you pulled in

819
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:10,140
ok a good story has an emotional issue

820
00:46:17,720 --> 00:46:13,530
or problem the world is not perfect the

821
00:46:19,730 --> 00:46:17,730
world is not right the hero is has a

822
00:46:22,730 --> 00:46:19,740
hopefully a really difficult and

823
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:22,740
insoluble problem I got a dying kid and

824
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:25,890
there's nothing I can do and then a

825
00:46:30,170 --> 00:46:28,050
solution presents itself and does he

826
00:46:32,180 --> 00:46:30,180
take the challenge or not in this

827
00:46:34,490 --> 00:46:32,190
particular case does he buy the bed or

828
00:46:36,470 --> 00:46:34,500
not he has a decision to make a good

829
00:46:38,510 --> 00:46:36,480
story the character has a decision to

830
00:46:41,210 --> 00:46:38,520
make he isn't just forced to make a

831
00:46:43,970 --> 00:46:41,220
decision he isn't forced by circumstance

832
00:46:45,980 --> 00:46:43,980
he makes a choice which reflects on the

833
00:46:48,830 --> 00:46:45,990
quality of the character that you're

834
00:46:50,810 --> 00:46:48,840
creating and then he takes a chance and

835
00:46:53,630 --> 00:46:50,820
he chooses the vet or whatever and the

836
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:53,640
bed will provide the solution in an

837
00:46:59,750 --> 00:46:57,810
interesting way or not in a tragedy the

838
00:47:01,820 --> 00:46:59,760
solution doesn't present itself or the

839
00:47:04,550 --> 00:47:01,830
character fails because of his fatal

840
00:47:09,050 --> 00:47:04,560
flaw whatever like Aristotle would say

841
00:47:11,450 --> 00:47:09,060
or it's it's it's it's a satisfying

842
00:47:14,030 --> 00:47:11,460
drama in a different sense with a hero

843
00:47:17,090 --> 00:47:14,040
achieves his goal one final thing I'll

844
00:47:18,380 --> 00:47:17,100
say about writing any of you an interest

845
00:47:21,650 --> 00:47:18,390
in writing or just knowing what you're

846
00:47:22,940 --> 00:47:21,660
looking at what are foreign films are

847
00:47:26,060 --> 00:47:22,950
about foreign films and television shows

848
00:47:28,790 --> 00:47:26,070
tend to be about life I mean they show

849
00:47:31,100 --> 00:47:28,800
life character does his best and fails

850
00:47:35,230 --> 00:47:31,110
and that's just the way it works we're

851
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:35,240
American films and TV shows about

852
00:47:43,490 --> 00:47:38,610
winning he said winning what else anyone

853
00:47:45,980 --> 00:47:43,500
else which he's close very close what

854
00:47:48,230 --> 00:47:45,990
are American TV shows and films about

855
00:47:50,450 --> 00:47:48,240
basically what's the basic thing there

856
00:47:52,460 --> 00:47:50,460
about foreign films and TV shows are

857
00:47:58,330 --> 00:47:52,470
about life what our American films and

858
00:48:01,220 --> 00:47:58,340
TV shows about good choice sensible huh

859
00:48:06,030 --> 00:48:01,230
action

860
00:48:09,359 --> 00:48:06,040
death okay violence you all y'all right

861
00:48:14,550 --> 00:48:09,369
to a degree American films and TV shows

862
00:48:16,530 --> 00:48:14,560
are about empowerment and there's lots

863
00:48:17,970 --> 00:48:16,540
of good and bad things about that if

864
00:48:20,820 --> 00:48:17,980
you've ever seen any Schwarzenegger

865
00:48:23,030 --> 00:48:20,830
movie you know how bad it can be if

866
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:23,040
you've seen any of the expendables films

867
00:48:29,550 --> 00:48:26,290
how bad it can be but also it's very

868
00:48:30,839 --> 00:48:29,560
appealing because most foreign films and

869
00:48:33,330 --> 00:48:30,849
TV shows are about life and the

870
00:48:34,470 --> 00:48:33,340
characters lose because the

871
00:48:36,660 --> 00:48:34,480
circumstances beyond their control

872
00:48:39,140 --> 00:48:36,670
because that's what life is like for

873
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:39,150
most of us at least at some point and

874
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:41,290
what's so appealing about the American

875
00:48:45,380 --> 00:48:43,690
ethos and films and TV is there about

876
00:48:48,630 --> 00:48:45,390
empowerment characters succeed

877
00:48:50,970 --> 00:48:48,640
characters have power there's a lot of

878
00:48:53,609 --> 00:48:50,980
bad things about that I mean can go on a

879
00:48:55,260 --> 00:48:53,619
list of you know reactionary whatever

880
00:48:58,230 --> 00:48:55,270
kind of shows we've done that show

881
00:49:01,349 --> 00:48:58,240
terrible values or whatever if you ever

882
00:49:03,089 --> 00:49:01,359
seen meet Cody Banks those two films

883
00:49:05,490 --> 00:49:03,099
which were about a nine year old secret

884
00:49:07,589 --> 00:49:05,500
agent and who goes to summer camp where

885
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:07,599
the CIA secretly changed trains him to

886
00:49:10,470 --> 00:49:08,770
be a killer without his parents

887
00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:10,480
knowledge this is something Hitler would

888
00:49:15,990 --> 00:49:12,730
have enjoyed this is a Hitler Youth idea

889
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:16,000
it's shown as a light comedy and we oh

890
00:49:20,940 --> 00:49:19,570
how funny it's a terrible idea but it's

891
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:20,950
about empowerment and that's very

892
00:49:24,270 --> 00:49:22,690
appealing and it's mostly it's been a

893
00:49:26,849 --> 00:49:24,280
good thing for the film industry in film

894
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:26,859
business I guess I should wrap up with a

895
00:49:30,630 --> 00:49:28,210
couple of for that I'll do a little

896
00:49:33,359 --> 00:49:30,640
advertisement here this is my book no

897
00:49:36,900 --> 00:49:33,369
power on earth I've got copies over

898
00:49:41,250 --> 00:49:36,910
there if you're interested and this is

899
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:41,260
the publisher it was published back very

900
00:49:46,530 --> 00:49:44,410
successfully some time ago and this is a

901
00:49:50,099 --> 00:49:46,540
reprint to revision it's a whole new

902
00:49:53,609 --> 00:49:50,109
book and love to see you come by any

903
00:49:56,599 --> 00:49:53,619
questions folks that have questions that

904
00:49:59,220 --> 00:49:56,609
come up is this on can you owe him

905
00:50:01,410 --> 00:49:59,230
alright we'd like to have you come up

906
00:50:03,570 --> 00:50:01,420
and say your question into the

907
00:50:07,079 --> 00:50:03,580
microphone because I we have a limited

908
00:50:08,370 --> 00:50:07,089
length on this anybody have a question

909
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:08,380
for mr. Karen

910
00:50:16,289 --> 00:50:10,930
about any of the Star Trek characters or

911
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:16,299
any of his experiences yes sir I wanted

912
00:50:20,700 --> 00:50:17,890
to ask you did you have anything to do

913
00:50:24,420 --> 00:50:20,710
with the Deep Space nine series no I did

914
00:50:31,079 --> 00:50:24,430
not that was a that was the first

915
00:50:33,240 --> 00:50:31,089
spin-off they did too well II they did

916
00:50:34,559 --> 00:50:33,250
three excuse me no didn't have anything

917
00:50:37,559 --> 00:50:34,569
to do with it but I didn't know all the

918
00:50:39,329 --> 00:50:37,569
people involved and I was proud of fact

919
00:50:40,710 --> 00:50:39,339
that every week during the third and

920
00:50:44,309 --> 00:50:40,720
fourth season they were doing an old war

921
00:50:47,249 --> 00:50:44,319
movie if you notice they did b'tan they

922
00:50:50,759 --> 00:50:47,259
bid did none but the brave they did

923
00:50:53,099 --> 00:50:50,769
Darby's Rangers they even did guns of

924
00:50:54,809 --> 00:50:53,109
navarone they did every war movie I was

925
00:50:56,609 --> 00:50:54,819
very proud of them for that they were

926
00:50:59,009 --> 00:50:56,619
excited were doing old war films well I

927
00:51:01,170 --> 00:50:59,019
really love Star Trek all of them well

928
00:51:03,180 --> 00:51:01,180
thank you why I fell in love with the

929
00:51:07,410 --> 00:51:03,190
face nine that the most i guess it was a

930
00:51:10,140 --> 00:51:07,420
war show it was it was the best war show

931
00:51:14,430 --> 00:51:10,150
on the air since combat you remember

932
00:51:18,509 --> 00:51:14,440
combat anybody else like to come up an s

933
00:51:21,509 --> 00:51:18,519
mr. Karen of course so if somebody has

934
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:21,519
the script to end all scripts or the

935
00:51:26,460 --> 00:51:23,410
story Ken doll stories how would you

936
00:51:28,470 --> 00:51:26,470
recommend that they put it out there for

937
00:51:30,809 --> 00:51:28,480
people to see well the first thing you

938
00:51:33,450 --> 00:51:30,819
need to do the thing that kills

939
00:51:36,150 --> 00:51:33,460
screenplays with producers agents and

940
00:51:38,730 --> 00:51:36,160
film festivals scream script

941
00:51:40,740 --> 00:51:38,740
competitions is there not written in a

942
00:51:43,170 --> 00:51:40,750
proper format and they're not properly

943
00:51:44,999 --> 00:51:43,180
proof to believe it or not I have

944
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:45,009
students that right for me and my Ryan

945
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:47,410
classes at UTPA by the way must give put

946
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:48,970
in a plug for university of texas-pan

947
00:51:55,410 --> 00:51:51,490
American soon to be the university of

948
00:51:59,240 --> 00:51:55,420
texas rio grande valley in mcallen and

949
00:52:03,029 --> 00:51:59,250
Edinburgh and Brownsville we're we're

950
00:52:05,970 --> 00:52:03,039
combining campuses with you TB and UTPA

951
00:52:08,819 --> 00:52:05,980
in bronzeville and Edinburgh and we have

952
00:52:10,769 --> 00:52:08,829
the best unified theatre team film

953
00:52:12,539 --> 00:52:10,779
program in the country outside Toledo

954
00:52:16,410 --> 00:52:12,549
Ohio if you don't want to move to Toledo

955
00:52:17,730 --> 00:52:16,420
Ohio you got come to us but when I tell

956
00:52:21,190 --> 00:52:17,740
my students in my script writing classes

957
00:52:22,900 --> 00:52:21,200
is presentation is all important in Rye

958
00:52:26,050 --> 00:52:22,910
this material we have an English teacher

959
00:52:27,970 --> 00:52:26,060
here right right if you were going to

960
00:52:31,930 --> 00:52:27,980
send a brilliantly written story to a

961
00:52:36,420 --> 00:52:31,940
publisher and you've misspelled there

962
00:52:39,430 --> 00:52:36,430
they are there as th e ir what happens

963
00:52:40,839 --> 00:52:39,440
they'll throw it out even if it's the

964
00:52:48,220 --> 00:52:40,849
best written story in the world to throw

965
00:52:51,819 --> 00:52:48,230
it out yeah and you're you know or a you

966
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:51,829
know I ate grandma and it's he ate his

967
00:52:57,730 --> 00:52:53,690
grandma because there's no comma between

968
00:53:00,490 --> 00:52:57,740
eight and grandma right I get that a lot

969
00:53:02,020 --> 00:53:00,500
it please anything like that it's very

970
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:02,030
destructive you've got to really have

971
00:53:05,829 --> 00:53:03,530
your format down you've got to have it

972
00:53:07,780 --> 00:53:05,839
proved properly the scenes can't be more

973
00:53:09,910 --> 00:53:07,790
than three pages long and they have to

974
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:09,920
begin in the middle you notice how these

975
00:53:14,319 --> 00:53:11,690
things tend to begin in the middle in a

976
00:53:16,870 --> 00:53:14,329
good story and they end with a really

977
00:53:18,460 --> 00:53:16,880
dramatic moment at the end you notice

978
00:53:21,670 --> 00:53:18,470
you watch this stuff if it doesn't do

979
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:21,680
that you get bored right so but but the

980
00:53:27,609 --> 00:53:24,290
best access I know of today is is script

981
00:53:29,230 --> 00:53:27,619
competitions and film festivals because

982
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:29,240
it's very hard unless you want to move

983
00:53:34,450 --> 00:53:31,130
to Los Angeles to deal with those crazy

984
00:53:36,250 --> 00:53:34,460
people it's very hard to get a career

985
00:53:37,359 --> 00:53:36,260
going and I don't blame you if you don't

986
00:53:39,670 --> 00:53:37,369
want to do that I used to be one of

987
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:39,680
those crazy people you know if you want

988
00:53:43,630 --> 00:53:41,450
to stay in your community then you do it

989
00:53:46,990 --> 00:53:43,640
yourself you get a laptop and a camera

990
00:53:48,940 --> 00:53:47,000
and software and you can shoot and edit

991
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:48,950
your own movies under 23 thousand

992
00:53:53,050 --> 00:53:51,170
dollars a day do your own films write

993
00:53:54,339 --> 00:53:53,060
your own films if you want just be aware

994
00:53:55,839 --> 00:53:54,349
it's going to be very hard to sell them

995
00:53:58,329 --> 00:53:55,849
but so well so what else is new you can

996
00:54:02,020 --> 00:53:58,339
do what you want how many filmmakers we

997
00:54:05,380 --> 00:54:02,030
have here any potential filmmakers god

998
00:54:06,700 --> 00:54:05,390
everyone's saying oh okay it's tough to

999
00:54:12,140 --> 00:54:06,710
do but you can do it on your own now you

1000
00:54:22,460 --> 00:54:19,450
Thank You Emma you're listening to irn